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Post by vilenin1917 on Apr 8, 2009 2:45:51 GMT -5
Okay, I've read enough posts about the "NWO" that is supposedly going to take over. The problem is not this unseen force that means to destroy us. It's much simpler and right before us; the problem is capitalism and the profit motive. The capitalists (i.e. business owners) are using all of the resources at their disposal to prevent the left from taking any traction and destroying their wealth. Conspiracy theories are the works of fascists who want to obscure the real source of the problem.
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Post by Tacgnol on Apr 8, 2009 2:56:12 GMT -5
The real problem is that all over the world peoples freedoms are being shoved aside. People are being killed, tortured or put into jail for expressing their rights as stated in their own charters/constitutions. Armys are being misused to take resources from other countries so that those countries don't have to use up their own. People are being treated as slaves all over the world because they have no rights and its cheaper.
NWO is just one thing, but the laws being put into place to close society is the real problem. It mimics all the events that happened right up until Hitlers reign.
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Post by scartcticcg on Apr 8, 2009 5:54:31 GMT -5
You say that on a forum called "No world order". Why did you come here in the first place then?
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Post by thestranger on Apr 8, 2009 13:13:58 GMT -5
You say that on a forum called "No world order". Why did you come here in the first place then? He came here because he has a sincere desire to change things. Why did you come here if you aren't willing to listen?
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Post by scartcticcg on Apr 8, 2009 13:27:11 GMT -5
You say that on a forum called "No world order". Why did you come here in the first place then? He came here because he has a sincere desire to change things. Why did you come here if you aren't willing to listen? Looks like we have a communication breakdown here. The website is called "No world order" because we want to stop the New World Order from happening as it is. Coming to a website called "no world order, you'd expect to believe the the New World order is going to happen.
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Post by Tacgnol on Apr 8, 2009 14:08:27 GMT -5
More than just that scartcticcg, NWO is just one of the problems with many symptoms. The symptoms need to be cured and the problem eradicated.
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Post by thestranger on Apr 8, 2009 14:15:37 GMT -5
He came here because he has a sincere desire to change things. Why did you come here if you aren't willing to listen? Looks like we have a communication breakdown here. The website is called "No world order" because we want to stop the New World Order from happening as it is. Coming to a website called "no world order, you'd expect to believe the the New World order is going to happen. Well, it seems that the posts on this board reflect more diversity then just paranoid hysterics so perhaps no world order is a misnomer.
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Post by Tacgnol on Apr 8, 2009 14:17:23 GMT -5
That is just its original name. It shall be changed to fktup.org soon. Freedom Knowledge Truth Unity Peace
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Post by scartcticcg on Apr 8, 2009 14:26:32 GMT -5
That is just its original name. It shall be changed to fktup.org soon. Freedom Knowledge Truth Unity Peace All the better too. What we all want is change, I understand that, but at the moment the board is call No World Order. If you come here then you probably do already believe that the NWO is going to happen. That's what I'm trying to say here, sorry for any confusion.
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Post by atrasicarius on Apr 8, 2009 18:32:47 GMT -5
Okay, I've read enough posts about the "NWO" that is supposedly going to take over. The problem is not this unseen force that means to destroy us. It's much simpler and right before us; the problem is capitalism and the profit motive. The capitalists (i.e. business owners) are using all of the resources at their disposal to prevent the left from taking any traction and destroying their wealth. Conspiracy theories are the works of fascists who want to obscure the real source of the problem. It's not quite that simple. There really isnt a whole lot of difference between the average Republican and the average Democrat. Sure they say different things, but they get in power and do the exact same things. There are worse than usual politicians like Bush and better than usual politicians like Obama, but it's really all part of the same agenda: preserving the aristocracy. Capitalism and Communism are both just means to the same end.
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Post by Operator on Apr 8, 2009 18:39:19 GMT -5
Well I think stymieing the efforts of globalization or a New World Order is what many of us had in mind. It's not a problem to unify one world without boundaries, but when you have corrupt leaders who would then control that one world nation, then you have a problem.
In my opinion, I use the term NWO as a catch-all phrase that relates to corporate-owned governments, capitalist greed, materialistic consumerism, but above all, a corrupt ruling elite that own most of the world's wealth, and consequently, power.
But I think a New World Order implies many symptoms- ranging from poverty and recession, to replacing freedom with a false sense of security (surveillance), to more extreme cases like population control and reduction (FEMA camps, chemtrails, etc)
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