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Post by atrasicarius on Apr 5, 2009 15:15:55 GMT -5
Since we're all here, I assume we all believe it exists in one form or another, but I think we should have a better idea of what we're fighting against. Personally, I think there's no "organized conspiracy" per se. It's more a common agreement between the most powerful people that the best way to gain more power is to work together. There are some organizations that help facilitate that, like the Bilderburg Group or the Bohemian Club, but there's no overarching conspiracy. Anyone who gets that high has to be insanely ambitious in the first place, so there's got to be some serious infighting and internal power struggles going on. Most of all, they're not by any mean omniscient. I would guess there's less than a thousand people who are "in." They cant keep track of every little thing that could be threatening to them.
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Post by dodge on Apr 5, 2009 16:07:10 GMT -5
Agreed on all points. There is no real conspiracy, just a thirst for more power at the expense of the non-elite.
The NWO will put us all at the hands of the 'most powerful' men(and women, if they let them out of the kitchen) in the world. All of them. It will 'unify' us as one in a body ruled entirely by people who only care about money and power. We will continue fighting them and they will continue brainwashing our brothers and sisters as much as possible to make them believe we are the enemies. Us fighting for their ACTUAL freedom and not the military being sent into unjust wars to 'protect' their 'freedom' which is being stripped of them every day, every time a bill passes through Congress, as being terrorists, because we want them to be truly free, not ruled by some fancy dude with smooth speech and a powerful stance. We want the gvmt back where it belongs. In our hands, and we will therefore be seen as a threat to all who hear their case first. We NEED to get more people involved if we're going to succeed in this.
The NWO will likely have a check on all of us at the same time. I've heard of identity cards with tracking systems in them for 'our safety' but it will likely be to monitor us further. Dunno if that's just a theory or for real though.
The powerful men continuing to rise will be in on it. The banks are already in on it. The G20, for example, is headed by...What's that? The Central Bank AND the government?
So it's public information that the big banks are in on it, but they won't see that until it's too late unless we smack them in the head with it.
In short, the NWO is the current leaders of our respective countries banding together with the Central Banks, National Reserves, and the elite to create a world government.
The world government, however, is not to protect us, to help us, or to save us from any damned thing that they couldn't save us from in 2 seconds. It's to further their power over us and the world in a dictatorial fashion.
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Post by anarch on Apr 5, 2009 17:11:26 GMT -5
This is exactly it. The ruling class are too petty and stupid to organize any secret conspiracy, and their lower-echelon underlings are just as incompetent. I doubt there are any FBI provocateurs or whatever here as some have suggested. They're too busy wasting time on infiltrating harmless anti-war groups.
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Post by Operator on Apr 5, 2009 17:30:39 GMT -5
They'd sooner infiltrate a 'harmless anti-war group' before they'd infiltrate a group talking about revolution? I find that a bit hard to believe.
I'm not saying we should live in fear and paranoia, as those would be counter-productive, but I think we shouldn't underestimate them, either. That's one of the worst mistakes you can make, IMO.
As far as I'm concerned they might as well be soulless humanoids with supernatural powers... But that's for another thread.
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Post by dagradiaboli on Apr 5, 2009 17:33:38 GMT -5
They'd sooner infiltrate a 'harmless anti-war group' before they'd infiltrate a group talking about revolution? I find that a bit hard to believe. I'm not saying we should live in fear and paranoia, as those would be counter-productive, but I think we shouldn't underestimate them, either. That's one of the worst mistakes you can make, IMO. As far as I'm concerned they might as well be soulless humanoids with supernatural powers... But that's for another thread. That's why I'm all for DEFENDING ourselves, using necessary force to defend our well being and cause. If they do try to infiltrate us, they'll have nobody to pin it on due to it being a headless group. Its actually somewhat a guerrilla organization if you think about it.
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Post by dodge on Apr 5, 2009 17:36:34 GMT -5
That's what we should make them out to be just so nobody lets their guard down. Should we actually be under surveillance now, we can't let anything odd get by us. This is our lives we're talking about as far as I can see and we should, as a species, protect our own lives above all else. That doesn't mean pussy out if/when our lives are in danger, but to be fucking careful. At least as much as you can be. Go enjoy shit with friends, don't live in paranoia, but if you see something weird going on around you, don't just dismiss it. Don't look for it though or you'll see it everywhere and in everyone and you'll probably be fucked. Paranoia does that shit to you
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Post by Operator on Apr 5, 2009 17:37:41 GMT -5
Yes, vigilance is strongly encouraged.
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