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Post by anarch on Apr 5, 2009 2:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by dagradiaboli on Apr 5, 2009 2:59:32 GMT -5
Im not sure if its the best idea to download all of these things, (Due to ISP tracking and such, i know i sound paranoid but they've done it to me) However, if someone could post them here, i think it would be alot easier for people to get the information.
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Post by atrasicarius on Apr 5, 2009 2:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by Operator on Apr 5, 2009 3:02:40 GMT -5
I personally do not advocate any violent or illegal methods for dealing with the NWO. It is likely that they will just use that an excuse to initiate martial law and remove our freedoms indefinitely. There are other peaceful, non-violent ways to protest and make a real change. I will be offering these solutions, but I cannot stop people from doing what they will.
I do believe we should take advantage of our second amendment rights to bear arms, though, because our self-defense is important. But I put emphasis on defense, not offense.
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Post by HackeronSteroids on Apr 5, 2009 3:04:15 GMT -5
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Post by moomoomans on Apr 5, 2009 3:04:27 GMT -5
I think violence is completely appropriate, but only as long as they begin to use lethal force before any of us ever do.
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Post by anarch on Apr 5, 2009 3:06:26 GMT -5
There are non-violent ways to bring down the government- that's counter-economics. Live on the black market, don't pay taxes, work outside the system. With enough people doing that, the government will starve and wither away.
The problem is that counter-economics is illegal too. Marching in the streets isn't going to bring change, just look at how much effort has gone into ending Iraq with no real results. This is a game you can't win by playing within the rules- especially when our opponent doesn't.
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How to fight the system
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Post by How to fight the system on Apr 5, 2009 3:08:34 GMT -5
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Post by dagradiaboli on Apr 5, 2009 3:09:57 GMT -5
I personally do not advocate any violent or illegal methods for dealing with the NWO. It is likely that they will just use that an excuse to initiate martial law and remove our freedoms indefinitely. There are other peaceful, non-violent ways to protest and make a real change. I will be offering these solutions, but I cannot stop people from doing what they will. I do believe we should take advantage of our second amendment rights to bear arms, though, because our self-defense is important. But I put emphasis on defense, not offense. I Agree with you, violence is a secondary means. Use it for self defense and the defense of your brothers, however, if they do label us as "revolting" or conspiracy, that removes our rights as citizens, due to the fact of it being Illegal to revolt. The constitution and the declaration of independence are figurative documents, which means what they say are not covered by our rights. |
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Post by atrasicarius on Apr 5, 2009 3:12:27 GMT -5
Everyone always says Gandhi had a peaceful revolution, but in fact it was extremely violent. It's just that the violence was all from one side against the other. Violence has a place, just like everything else. Dont use it when it's not appropriate, but dont be afraid to use it when it is.
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Post by Operator on Apr 5, 2009 3:22:02 GMT -5
I believe it would be extremely foolish to flaunt violent sentiments on an online forum where you can easily be tracked, though... If people keep chanting terrorist/anarchist slogans, they will shut this forum down in the blink of an eye and probably arrest most of the people who joined for being conspirators to terrorism.
So, unless you cease transmissions of violent solutions there's no reason for me to believe you aren't with the NWO, trying to get this forum shut down before it even has a chance to begin.
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Post by anarch on Apr 5, 2009 3:27:21 GMT -5
Operator,
You say that you want things to change, and you've gone as far as creating this forum already. However I can't imagine anything getting done while still attempting to remain within the law. That's kiddy leagues. So long as you continue obeying their rules, you tacitly acknowledge their right to rule you.
If you want to do this like a highschool civics project, fine, it's your forum, but I'll be disappointed that a noble effort to actually free ourselves was aborted so quickly.
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Post by unsigned on Apr 5, 2009 3:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by spider on Apr 5, 2009 3:42:35 GMT -5
Operator, You say that you want things to change, and you've gone as far as creating this forum already. However I can't imagine anything getting done while still attempting to remain within the law. That's kiddy leagues. So long as you continue obeying their rules, you tacitly acknowledge their right to rule you. If you want to do this like a highschool civics project, fine, it's your forum, but I'll be disappointed that a noble effort to actually free ourselves was aborted so quickly. then there should be an encrypted site linked to this one about non peaceful ways. |
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Post by anarch on Apr 5, 2009 3:44:53 GMT -5
Spider,
Let's not get non-peaceful confused with illegal. Violence might not be necessary, but if we wish to be truly free, breaking the law will.
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